Gone with the Witch by Angela Sanders Book 5 in the Witch Way Librarian Mysteries
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Author Chat Questions
0:00 Intro
1:54 Tell us about your new book - Gone With The Witch Book 5 in the Witchy Way Librarian Mysteries
5:00 Can readers pick this up without first reading Books 1-4?
6:09 How many more books do you have planned for the series?
6:44 Loved how you incorporated your Congressional Investigator expertise into creating Josie’s background.
8:25 How much of your Congressional investigator background really went into creating Josie and her background?
11:32 Will we see any more Congressional related items in any of the other books?
14:43 How is it she didn’t know her witch lineage?
15:40 Will we see new witch powers in future books?
18:28 Is Josie like you - is Josie a mini-Angela?
19:45 Who is her sidekick - her familiar?
21:03 Does Angela live in a Victorian Mansion?
21:40 Have you actually in real life found a Victorian Mansion Library?
23:10 How does Josie have a special connection to the library - hear it moan?
25:00 Why Oregon vs anywhere else?
26:26 What weather do you love to showcase your books in: Summer, Winter…?
27:52 Are you a big library user?
30:28 You write under other pen names, right?
33:27 What are your writing plans for 2024?
35:05 Where can readers find you?
36:46 Book giveaway
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Gone with the Witch by Angela Sanders Book 5 in the Witch Way Librarian Mysteries
Feb 9, 2024
38 min 44 sec
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0:01
Hi everyone and welcome to the Z Straight Bengals.So today we have Angela Sanders.Very excited.Hi, Angela.Hi, it's so nice to be here.Thank you for having me.Yeah.Thanks so much for being here.So why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself and where you're at right now?
0:20
Well, physically, I'm at Portland, OR in my in my disastrous office, which I've learned so that you can't see everything that's happening back there.And I'm working on book six of the Which Way Librarian Mysteries 5 is coming out toward the end of the month.
0:37
And I am.I think I'm going to have one of the best years of my life.You say that right now, That's.Totally amazing.We should stop and talk about that.Is that a feeling or is that like I put some goals together and I'm going to make it happen?Well you know I I I I like that idea of being really good.
0:55
I just when I was looking at last year it I realize you know how you always you think about what you're doing and what you need to do instead of looking back and thinking about what you've actually accomplished.When I look back at last year, I realized it was kind of a big year in a lot of ways that I didn't expect and I think it's just set me up to have a good year coming up, not.
1:21
And I it's.Pretty vague isn't it?Yeah, I didn't really know anything to, but yeah, I think it's going to be a good year.Hopefully it's a good year for everybody, everybody who's.Watching.Yeah, I think that helps too.Like, I'm not really touchy feely, but I think that whole the vibrational energy and like what you manifest if you're like just looking for good things to happen.
1:42
That's simply if you're expecting that it's going to be good, it will be good.If you're expecting it's going to be bad, guaranteed you're going to find things that we're going to get exciting.Cool.So we're here today to talk about your new release for this month, which is Gone with the Witch.
1:59
It's #5 in the witchy way, Librarian mystery.So do you want to tell everyone about your Yeah.So, so book five, it's been this series has been super fun to write.It's like I said, the main character, Josie, is a librarian.She's also a witch.She finds out in book one she's a witch she didn't know.
2:15
She finds out by accident.And so she really doesn't have a mentor, except for letters from her long dead grandmother, who had somehow foreseen that she was going to need to instruct Josie your granddaughter.And so each a book.
2:32
It's been fun as I've tried to figure out what you know, what makes Josie a witch?And where are her powers and what can she do in this book?I Her magic comes from books.She loves books.So her her power comes from what she loves, which is books.
2:47
So all that energy that authors put into books and that readers put into books.I mean, just imagine like you open a book and you read it and your view and it talks about a character sitting in a cafe.You have a picture in your mind of that character of the cafe and all these other readers do too.
3:02
And it's different.Everybody's putting their energy in's books.So Josie's a witch can tap into that energy and use it to fuel her magic and books talk to her.And in this, this book, I'm decided that maybe a particular famous sleuth can emerge from a book and help her solve.
3:22
So and I'll just say just like this Sherlock Holmes.So Sherlock Holmes becomes her detective partner in this.And they fight a lot about who the Watson is.But you know, you can figure out who you should think it is by the end of the book.So it's just it was really fun to do that.
3:40
That's very fun.You didn't give anything weird.I think that's actually in the description on SO.You know this when you write these books so far ahead of time, sometimes it's hard to remember.And I'm so deep, I'm almost finished with book 6, so my head is totally in the next book right now.Let's due back to the publish at the end of the month.
3:56
Well, yeah.And then one of the things too, and I've heard other writers talk about this sometimes when you're writing a series, you plant things that are gonna, you know, give bear fruit at some point in the future and you don't even know it.And then this one, I had a character, Missus Garlington.He is the town organist and poet.
4:14
He teaches organ lessons actually in the library, sometimes during now or sometimes after hours.Her favorite songs are Please Release Me and Spanish Eyes.And she's very a proper sort of older lady.But earlier in the series, maybe even the first book, I mentioned that her husband disappeared, you know, years before in the early 1970s.
4:34
And this book, just this is one of the things that sort of came to me in this brain wave.I thought, what if she's looking up at the TV and she sees her long disappear, you know, considered dead husband on ATV game show.
4:50
What if she looks up and there he is?So that's kind of the premise that starts this.Yeah, nice.It's a good mystery, so let's talk about.Well, I should just mention too, if you are new to this series, this is book 5.
5:06
So what was one through 4?Should they have read those before they read this?No, you don't have to.It's kind of fun to do it, though, because there are a couple of subplots that go from book to book.And in fact this book, Book Five, starts 5-6.
5:25
Then that's excuse me and, but no, you don't have to.I try to write them so that you can pick up any book and be introduced to the townspeople and the issues that are at hand.But it can be kind of fun to start at one and go through the books.
5:43
I would say if any of the books look interesting to you, pick it up, read it and then go back to one and see where you go.That's.My recommendation?Yeah.After you read book one, if you want, you can go.I'll leave a link to Courtney for the COSI Escape Book Club.Read book one in this series.
5:59
So they just talked about it two months ago.Oh, yay.Yeah, It's got outside.Yeah, everyone's loved it.Good.I'm glad.So you said you're already rating book 6.When is that 1 coming out?So that one will be nine months after.
6:16
So this the book 5 is considered March release, so it comes out last Tuesday in February.And so nine months after that book six will come out.That's usually how my books are spaced and it looks like.So I'm contracted through book six.It looks like I'll at least be writing a book seven.
6:33
And then just see you know the publisher likes to look at how sales are going and generally the books have been pretty popular.So and then just decide what happens with that.Very cool.So the number one toughest thing for me whenever I write a series and I know this is silly, is picking out names.
6:50
And you did a really cool thing where the she's named Josie way right after a friend.Yeah.Josie Way right.So Josie is the second of three sisters.Their father teaches French history and Community College, so she named each.
7:06
He named each of those daughters after a French queen.So daughter #1 is Marie Antoinette, and so they call her Tony.And Josie is Josephine after Napoleon's wife, so Josie.And then their little sister is Eugenie, who and she's called Jean.So and then characters in the books.
7:24
I know what you mean.It's so hard to think like I have a character right now I'm trying to name and I know that she's kind of evil, like he had to get the right name.So I put the placeholder of Karen in and that's how can I figure it out.We got the right name because that's not the right one, but I have found a lot of success in naming characters after my friend's pets.
7:48
I have two girls named Bitsy and Squeaky and that really wouldn't work unless maybe I had like, you know, Chicago gangster or something.I do 20s squeaky something, but like there's there's kids, Buffy and Thor in my series and they are named after friends, Wiener dogs and then Kirby River running through town.
8:08
That's after my friend JD, JD, Horns, Chihuahua, Kirby, and a lot of people.Yeah, I named them after people's pets.Cool.So I won't get into it because I want people to read book one.
8:24
I think they're going to love it.But how much of your congressional investigator background really went into creating Josie and her background?Well, you know, a lot of it did.When I decided to make her from DC, I could because I lived there for 4 1/2 years and there were just certain places I could just imagine in my head.
8:43
And one of them, there's a scene that is, it takes place in a flashback in the stacks of the Library of Congress.And that's one of the things that I will never forget.If you go into the Library of Congress, many people don't know that floors and floors and floors below the Library of Congress are stacks just full of books, all sorts of old books.
9:04
And if you take an elevator down, I could go down because I had, you know, ID as a congressional investigator and I'd be Congress is a congressional agency.You go down a big elevator and it opens up and it's pitch black because, I mean, they don't want to keep the lights running down there all the time.
9:21
And when you were under the earth that it's pitch black.It's a feeling like nothing else But you can just smell the books, rows and rows of books.So you you know you punch a a light and then the slide will come on tick, tick, tick, you know it's on a timer.At the end of each row there's a little light punch and go and find the book you want and then go back into the elevator.
9:38
So that is always stuck with me.So I had to put that image into the book.And if you read you can see there's there's sort of like there's an older mystery Josie which he goes to Welford, Oregon, which is where the series is set.It's a tiny little nowhere town, and it's in fact a totally made-up town in Oregon.
9:56
Combination of some old timber towns here.Oregonians would know where they are, but probably nobody else.And not all Oregonians.These tiny little towns.She's escaping DC trying to.She's on the run in book one because she's seen something she's not supposed to.
10:12
See and she's.Fears for her life.So she thinks she is completely escaping by going to Wilfred and taking over the position of library which is surprisingly an surprisingly easy job to get over the phone.So what's going on there?
10:29
So she and then scrolls over a dead body And so there's a question about does this have to do with with her escape or does this have to do with some other crimes happening in Wilfred or Navy boat.And the reason that I brought that up was I can't remember.
10:47
Well, I asked how her your congressional expertise worked into Joseph.Yeah, yeah.So I guess having having her escape from a place that I knew and go to a place that I knew kind of, you know, 'cause I know this part of the world, that's made a lot of sense for me.
11:03
It was just, I could see, you know, when you're right, I don't know if this is true for you, but like when I'm writing, I just sort of see the the things happen.It's like a movie is filling in my head and I ought to stop the movie sometimes and go back and change stuff.But it's really visual.
11:18
So if I can visualize a place where somebody is, it just it just comes to life and DCI could visualize.So I decided to have her there and not that be where she ran from.So that was book one.Do we ever see any more congressional related items in any of the other books?
11:40
I don't think so.She refers to it, but no, I don't think there's any more DC connection.Her family is all out there, so you know, she has connection with them.The sister comes in book four and the mom comes in book 6, which I'm working on right now with it.
11:59
So there's, you know, some connection to the East Coast.OK.All right.Well, let's go back.The coolest part of this is that she's the witch, right?So then she doesn't become a witch until she actually steps into Oregon, right?So let's talk about her witchy powers.
12:16
Well, so that was kind of a weird thing because I, you know, like, how do you write a witch?You know, I didn't want to write this all powerful witch.You could go.You are AI know that the murderer is because I'm a witch now because I'm a witch.You're in jail, right?That's not going to work.She's got to have some limits to her power.
12:32
And I also wanted to make it, like, almost plausible.Because if you want to, you can look at people's lives and find, like, witchiness everywhere.Like, sometimes you just know stuff.Yeah, Why?You know it.You just know it.Or you'll be thinking about somebody and they show up back in your life that week.
12:51
Or the old I know who was going to call before they called?I mean, there's just so many things that almost feel a little bit witchy.Or you just might have a knack, like you have a knack for growing house plants that none of your friends do for some reason.What is that green thumb?Maybe it's a little bit of witchiness, or you just get along really well with cats.
13:10
You know, cats always walk up to you when they won't go to anybody else.Maybe it's a little bit of witchiness.So I wanted to make her magic something that like could almost be true.Kind of where it came from, but also that had limitations.So when I said it was her magic, her power should come from what she loves.
13:28
And she loves books.And then and the energy that was put into books, that's what she could draw from.That made sense.It also gave her limitations.It meant that if she wasn't around books, she wouldn't have that magic.And it also meant that the books could send her messages that maybe were confusing.
13:45
The books might decide that they're going to deliver a novel or two to her bedside table each night, but maybe she picks up a novel that is something about, you know, like toxic families, one-on-one.And she thinks it has to do with her family, but really has to do with another family relating to a murder.
14:01
That's just an example, he was told.Leaving, you know, that's not in the books.I think there's a cat coming in my lap.That's Yep.She went to the window.Actually.Is a little black cat.I put also cat Rodney in the Series A black cat because I eat a black cat OK, which needs a familiar, right?
14:22
But I also kind of don't call him a familiar.And Josie refers to him as her cat friend.She doesn't want to stay familiar and he and I thought, so I named Rodney, gave him his own personality, kind of an alley cat, but really like a real Princess of one.And like, just I love Black Cats too.
14:39
I just think they're gorgeous.Really beautiful.Cats.So, so with her witching heart.So.And we find out that it's actually from her family lineage, right?But she just never knew about it before.He never knew about it because her mother didn't want her to have anything to do a hot cat tail.
14:56
Her mom didn't want her to have anything to do with magic.So her mother made her grandmother bind her powers.But the the binding was geographic.So when she crossed the Continental Divide and airplane, she suddenly had this, like, shoes snap, she thought.
15:13
I mean, like the the Hostess.The plane came over.I was like, are you OK?But and then all of a sudden, really weird things started happening to her.You know, it's a book.Started talking to her.She see no thoughts she heard.So yeah, her her magic is unleashed.
15:29
But she's she's going somewhere.She's on her way somewhere that no one can know where she is.So she can't even, you know, contact her family and say you know what the heck is going on.Cool.So And then her mom is going to be in book six.You said right.Yes.So will we see?
15:45
More witchy power growth or just more exploring the mom's witch powers?Well, she definitely So Josie definitely grows over the series as she becomes more confident in her inner power and as she figures stuff out that she can do with the book's energy.And then her sister Jean comes before coming for it.
16:06
And he is a healer, but not as powerful as Josie.Josie has every clean hair.The rich family fits out of superpower a witch and they have a birthmark that shows that they are of this powerful and you get and this this witch world you get a source of your power.
16:25
So for Josiah's books and then a drive and for Josiah's justice and the combination of that extra strong power and justice is, is something that has done in her.Like she's a great great grandmother in Scotland who was more than grade have to be like before 5 grades who was burned at the stake because she she was super powerful witch and she wasn't going to listen to what some of the people in her village wanted to do to you know, she had a sense of justice.
16:53
So she ended up being burned at the stake.And so Josie has that combination.And the other witches in her family, her mother and two sisters have lesser power, and then two of them are healers.And then her mother has the power of out of sight, but her mom doesn't really use it.
17:09
Her mom doesn't like.So on book six, her mom does have to grapple with that.Nice.And she's the only bashful one right in the series.There's not like a werewolf and a vampire that hang out with her for Pamela.I know.I kind of don't like that.
17:25
No, I kind of when I read a witch book and all of a sudden there's like, you know, hey, I'm werewolf for, I'm a zombie or whatever.I'm just kind of, I'm really kind of not into it.It just it I I like reading about paranormal stuff.But when we get too deep into that world, that fantasy world, that kind of loses me.
17:43
And I know different people have different levels of paranormal that they like.So no, there's just her.And she knows there must be other witches in the world.And she talks to her mom about relatives they might have, but we don't really.Well, I don't want to give too much away, but no, there's anything empires and werewolves.
18:02
Well, I like that because then it makes their special because I feel like there were like tons of supernatural, just like you said.It's like everybody's supernatural.Like, what's the big deal?Well, there are, and there's lots of stories where that's like, oh, this is a little town in Colorado where everybody's magical.And it's like, well, you know, I get it, but I don't know that's not, that's not the first kind of book I I'm drawn to.
18:22
I could see where they'd be fun to write, though.Yeah, for sure.So, Josie, how much is Josie?Like a mini Angela?You know, she's like, I've seen my character Joanna and another Susan, wrote avenged clothing mystery.She's probably more like she's sort of this hermudgely estate.
18:40
You know, like where she's coughing, let's a special cup and stuff like that.But one thing with Josie and Josie is maybe is more naive than I am.I think I'm kind of naive anyway.But I did give her my hair, you know.You know when you're trying to think physical description of somebody and it's like and I've already done some blondes and brunettes and whatever and it or or is he grin hair.
19:05
He's a witch.She can deal with it.So it's like, yeah lower hair.So I didn't give her my hair.And there are a few things as the series goes on.Because when once she gets her witch powers this veil, it's like she's sort of been shut down in a way.And so those veils lifted and the world is keener to her like smells.
19:23
It smells of pet grass.It's like suddenly she can really smell it.She can really see that gorgeous blue sky, She can really feel the wonderful texture of these old Lennon sheets.And so that's the kind of stuff I appreciate.So she does, over the course of the book, come to appreciate those things more and more, because I like writing about them.
19:45
And so who's her son then?Well, she has a friend.Who?Lalania, who is the psychic?She's the sort of the trailer park psychic in town.And she comes she.But she's not she what she is, she's like the practical side of magic.
20:02
She is the she does, you know, she's contacts, you know, dead spirits or whatever.But she's like, no, I do it for the money.What I do is I tell people what they need to hear.You know, you want to get in touch with your, you know, dead grandma.I know what you really need.You need some upright.So I just tell you what I think your grandmother's saying.
20:19
And you know, and I think in book one she holds up a tarot card and she's like, look up this tarot card, whatever it was.I can't remember Queen of Pentacles.This can mean a million different things.I just tell you what I think you need to hear that comes from this card.So she's, you know, and if she knew Josie was an actual witch, you know, and she would flip out, she wouldn't even believe it.
20:39
So she's a really good, book learned witch, but she has a really believe in magic.Where Josie is, you know, she has magic that she really doesn't know anything about being wet.So that's kind of her confessor, Angela Lania lives in the trailer park.She's got a really small bathtub, so she comes up to library, sits and then Victorian Nina Chen takes baths every Tuesday night and has dinner with Josie.
21:02
Oh yeah, that's the best part.So when I when I read this, the first book, I was like, does Angela live in a Victorian mansion?My wish it made dreams.I did.Well, you know how it is like when you're writing a world, why not?You're going to be spending some time in there.And like, I could have written, you know, a 1950s, you know, government issued library building.
21:23
But how fun is that?It's no fun.So I put it in a Victorian mansion.I love to go to thrift shops like now in this big book of like Victorian house floor plans.There was Italianate Mansion and I just converted that to the library.
21:39
Nice.So have you actually, in real life, found a Victorian mansion library?No.I mean that was out there somewhere, I mean.I've seen like shops that have books and candles and like cute stuff.
21:54
That's a Victorian house, but I haven't had a library yet.No, I thought so.I thought I would meet this library place I wanted to go because it's kind of half the fun of write of well, it's half the fun.Definitely have the fun of writing a book but also reading a book because being in this place.
22:10
So I made a touring man that that was that was cool and have so that there's fireplaces in all the book rooms and old tattered and covered furniture and chandeliers that are missing their crystals.But there's still there's chandeliers in big kitchen in the back where a lot of people come in the side into the kitchen and have coffee and chat before they go out.
22:27
No, the cat library, Rodney.There's an organ upstairs in the old master bedroom dressing room that Mrs. Garlington teaches organ lessons on, and a big bathtub that people from the trailer park come up and use, 'cause it's Remy.I said this is a world that I would want to hang out in.
22:44
Josie's office is in the old pantry under the staircase and has a casement window that opens up to the river.You know, Yeah, I think it's important I always tell people that when I talk to to new writers starting their series Create a World, Do you want to spend time in Three of us spent a lot of time in it, so it will be alluring to you.
23:10
So does the Josie's powers her witchy powers?When we say the library talks to her, is it because the Victorian building is kind of magical?Or is it just her?Like, could she walk really into any library and the books will talk to her?So yeah, it's the books more than the library that talk to her, although there is a portrait of the founder Marilyn Wilfred, above the door in her 1920s slapper gown, and she kind of wonders if that portrait isn't chanted.
23:35
But you can't really tell.And then, or at least not so far.Maybe she'll tell at some point, I'm not sure.But it's the books.It's the books.She can be somewhere.And if you have a book in your pocket, that book is talking to her.Like, you know, if you're reading the Western there, she might hear galloping horses and gunfire coming down your pocket.
23:55
OK, Or is it?Well, I say.Or is she somewhere facing off a murderer, and she's lucky enough that there's a thriller in the building that's nearby?That thriller might give her some mood.She needs to get out of her situation.OK, and so it's the whole book that talks to her, not just like 1 character within the book.
24:15
Right.It's a whole book.Although there are characters, she a couple times there are characters who have talked to her and and one book.I think it was a book Ree witch and famous.She makes composite characters like she she needs advice on solving a murder.
24:31
So she goes to the library and it's like all of the hard boiled detectives, you know, come together and make one character.All the girl detectives make one character, you know, all the golden age detectives.And so they crystallize into these characters on a desk and give her advice.That's a good idea.
24:48
Just don't even worry about who's the best.Just.Put them all together.I mean, you think like, hard boiled and you know what the guy's going to look like.So now, like a slap door on a trench coat and talk in a certain voice.Yeah, very.Cool, so this whole series is set in Oregon in a Maple Leaf town.
25:07
And.You're from DC, so have you.Like, is there a big contrast for you, for her, like pointing things out all the time on the differences between the two?And does she miss DC or does she, like, love this small town so much?In in book one she misses two things about Daisy for sure and she misses things about city life but she really does come to embrace Wilfred and she does love it there.
25:30
It's a small town.Everybody knows your business.But she also has I mean she's young but she has a position of authority as a town librarian and and and she yeah, she finds she really loves it and she's attached to the library and it's books you know those books are protecting her and and funneling her magic and and then she also falls in love with the guy next door.
25:51
So there's that.And you put this in Oregon because you love Oregon and that's where you're at, right?That, Yeah, exactly.Now I'm in Portland, so it's Portland's a city, but I grew up in a rural area in Northern California.And I remember, like the timber towns, the old abandoned logging towns.
26:10
You know what their workers used to live.The workers used to live and the smell of the dirt and and all of that.I loved my rural upbringing, so this gave me a chance to bring back some of that too.Nice.
26:26
OK.So I guess when we think about whether in Portland you have all Four Seasons, right, it would.So is there any particular season that you love to showcase in books or does it you're not?Oh, you know, you think the seasons are super important in writing about a book.
26:44
And I like to showcase.I think it's dream weather when it comes to.I like it when it's hot, hot, hot, or when it's really, really cold and snowy and icy.When there's hurricanes, when there's forests, Potters, when there's floods.
27:01
You know, it's kind of nice when the weather is a character and and plays a big role.It's dramatic, it's exciting.It's like we're writing goofy fiction.Got a goofy mania.Like, come on, I'm writing about a Witch Library magic cat, so why not just, like, just make it dramatic pull in these big.
27:20
Factors What's the weather like in this book?This book though, oh, the one that comes in Gone with the Witch is, is Spring.OK, rainy spring weather a kind of cold but some days are warmer and it's really off and on.
27:38
Where it can be raining, pounding rain, it can be drizzling or it can not be spring.Around here is that's when people say Portland is all Four Seasons.You know, in one day.You know, joke.Yeah.And then so are you a big library patron?
27:56
Do you go all the time to check your books out there or?I love the library.I love the library.I mean, I grew up loving libraries.I remember as like a kid thinking if I had $1,000,000, would I start a museum or a library?It's a library.
28:12
You know, when you play games and yourself on your kid, I always love libraries.My mom used to drop me off the library in town, and while she went to do whatever she was doing, I'm spend hours there.I thought, you know, oh, if I'm going to be a person who is, you know a woman of the world, this is when I'm like 10.
28:28
There are certain things I know.So I would I like, I went through the classical record collection.I think I only got to like Chopin before I pooped out.But like I need to know certain, you know, authors and artists.And so I like went on full self education program in the library and I'm sure the librarians were, you know, they see some girl with this mass of curly air who's obviously serious about what she's doing even though it's ridiculous.
28:52
So I I love the libraries.And during COVID, oh, I used the the electronic getting ebooks in the library.That saved me.I could just sit with my Kindle and you know read the book and then 5 minutes later have another one on my Kindle ready to go.
29:09
I just think that's magical.Love the library.I mean, you thought we do too, don't you?If you like books.I mean, for sure I do miss the library in New York City.Yeah, the big one with the Lions.The big.
29:25
And there's a huge difference, like vast night and day between the books that you can get electronically even from New York versus here.Oh, that's interesting.I think they must have a bigger budget or they just order more books.Because of the population, maybe, yeah.
29:41
Oh, that is really interesting.We have a pretty robust.And Multnomah County has one of the best library systems around.Maybe because it's rains a lot here people, you know, I don't know.But yeah, I have something to do.Wow.
29:58
Yeah.But no.I love the library.I have always loved the library.Yeah.And this some of the programs like who are viewership at this.I need to put this in one of my books.You know like the the programs for kids to read the dogs.Oh yeah.And then we could have the dog and Rodney get into it, you know.
30:16
Cute.OK, yeah, I love that.It's just like, it breaks my heart.And you see this sweet lab just sitting there listening to some kid reading a book.And Angela Sanders isn't your only pet name.You have another pet name, right?
30:31
Right.So Angela M Sanders is this pen name.This is my that's my actual real name.A husband.I have a pen name, Clover Tate.I wrote a series for Berkeley Crime Crime that takes place in a Kart shop in the Oregon coast.Very cool.Do you want to tell us a little bit about that series?
30:47
Because there's a bunch of books in there.Yeah, well, there's three books in there that was written.That's a house series.So it means that it's kind of like Nancy Drew, where the publisher owns that name.So if they decided to write more books, they could farm it out to somebody else and somebody else.I didn't know that.Yeah, that happens pretty commonly.
31:04
I didn't know it either.I didn't know it until, you know, my agent said, hey, do you want to pitch in writing series that, you know, Berkeley wants to do a series out of the coast, a kite shop.And they were like, well, OK, and then they took it.Yeah.So that's their concept.And you just stepped in almost like a job.
31:21
Yeah, thanks.Yeah, we got.They taught, yeah.They taught me a lot about writing proposals, which was, which was good.Yeah.They, one of their assistant editors had gone to the coast and and her boyfriend said, wouldn't it be cute to have a mystery, you know, around a kite shop?
31:37
And so she went back and hitched it to the publisher.And they said, OK, you find a writer and we'll do it.OK, we were talking about this a little bit before the show.You write, posting mysteries.Are you thinking about or?Have you ever thought about writing in another genre, Romance or or something?
31:53
I well, you know, so I do or have written magazine articles and I love that.I love doing profiles of people that and I do do some perfume writing as well.It's just a lot of people are like perfume What my blog for a bunch of years and they've written for a French perfume magazine called Nay magazine and not in French though they translate the articles.
32:20
So and I really enjoy that.I really enjoy talking to people and writing about it but I also think to keep you writing fresh.I don't know how you feel about it.For me, sometimes it's nice to shake it up a little bit up that's back.See, her tail goes out again, but she or I.
32:37
So I like, I want to start a series where I do multiple points of view There there goes the tale where I do multiple points of view instead of the first person one point of view, just to shake it up a little bit to keep it fresh and then maybe do a mystery that's a little less cozy.
32:54
I'm still like, I'm too shy to write about sex and hardcore violence is not very interesting to me.But maybe something with just a little slightly different flavor and maybe something with more caper in it.I love capers.
33:13
Yeah, I mean, we'll see.I want to keep in this writing game for a lot of years and I it will be.It'd be fun to do other things as well as cozy.Just I love the mystery genre.Yeah.So what are your plans for 20, your writing plans for 2024?
33:32
You're finishing up 6:00 and 7:00.Right.So I'll write book 6 and it looks like book seven and then there may be there's, I can't really talk about it too much, but there is talk about spinning off a character who comes into book seven of the series into another series, the paperback original series.
33:53
So I'm sort of working on that concept and we'll see if that goes anywhere.And so if that happens, I may be writing a couple books at the same time.I also write and self publish a series of vintage clothing mysteries and I have one that is plotted out that and that's theories.
34:09
I get people like all the time emailing me, what's the next book coming out, what's the next book coming out.Then they're all, you know, based after a vintage clothing designer sort of the center of it.But I have one plotted out and I just haven't had time to write it.So if I get some time to to do that, then I'll also do that.
34:27
That's why, and I really need to get better work habits.I I need, I need, like the, you know, writing dominatrix to be like, standing up the door of the way, oh, sit at your computer.I've had two different tricks.Yeah, I see that sometimes too.
34:43
I need like adult supervision.That you're doing.Describe it.Or let me show you.Betsy, she's she's on my lap right now.Bits.Here she goes.Her little belly.
34:59
OK, sit down.That's the cat that goes with the tail.That's right.Exactly.It's the rest of her.And we're talking about this too.So where can readers find you if they wanted to hang out with you?Are you just on your website or a blog or anywhere else?Well, so my website is a good place to get in touch with me and I welcome emails.
35:18
You know, if you have feedback, if you happen to think bad to say about my books, I'm really not interested in that, so please don't.There was a cat's head.But yeah, but I'm on Instagram.Facebook, I have sort of bailed on for the moment, 'cause it seems like whenever we go on the Facebook, it's either about politics or somebody's dog has died, like husband is in the hospital.
35:40
It's just got to be too hard, especially during the pandemic.It's like I can't see another dying Beagle.I bailed on Facebook and started focusing more on Instagram.And so Instagram is where I am, social media primarily.But yeah, I'd love to hear from, oh, I have a really good newsletter too.
36:01
So if you go to my website, you can sign it.It's angelamsanders.com.My newsletter comes out every month.I'm overdue to send out one now, and I try it.It's not just like, oh, here's a bunch of stuff about me and, oh, I hurt my ankle.Don't you want to hear about this for two characters?It's like, write a lot about, like, the stuff that is interesting to me right now.
36:19
Great movies I've seen.I like to write about like really stylish women in the past.I think it's really fun and and so witchy stuff too.Gets on there.I mean, that makes sense if you have like, vintage clothing.
36:36
I do like no.I love it.So every once in a while I'll find a photo of, like, a spectacular dress.Talk about like, how I would style it, yeah.And we've been ignoring everyone in the comments, So we have.I don't even see it.We have the Wanda the Love Detroit.
36:52
Nice, I love.You I think she was talking about how you said 2024 was going to be a great year.Yeah, good.Yes.And hopefully we'll you too.Yeah.Carrots here.Robin from Sacramento.Nice.
37:08
I love how those warm kitchens me too.I love reading about them too.I love, like, feeling like had dinner with people.That was so.I love how those comments Scroll down there.Yeah.Love libraries and the old bookmobiles.
37:25
Oh, the bookmobiles.Yeah, those.Whole idea is so great.Wines story Oh, she's Robin's trying to gas at your.Oh well, there's an idea.Yeah, All right.
37:42
So we can pick a book giveaway winner.So you just have to pick the ring that a lot of comments, so just pick a number for me and tell me between 1:00 and.OK 6.Six.OK, so we have 12345 and six.
38:02
So it's Robin Lane.So, Robin, just drop me e-mail at lisa@lisasuper.com and we'll get a copy of the book sent over to you.So thanks so much for joining.Oh, oops.We have one more person.Elizabeth, I'm reading your first book right now, and I bought the next three.
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Get it?I love to hear that.And yeah, then right.Love it.Vibes coming out in three weeks.All right.Well, thank you so much, Angela, for coming on and telling us all.My.Yeah, pleasure.All right, thanks, everyone.
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